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Studio One now features a revamped hardware audio device controller for software control of your PreSonus interface’s gain and polarity controls. And if your interface doesn’t have these controls, you get software gain and polarity control of every Input, anyhow!

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Has to be simple:
When I adjust the 'Volume' of a track, it doesn't seem to change the level of the recording.
I was expecting the input volume to adjust based on how much I change the input slider right below the 'Mute/Solo/Arm/Monitor' buttons (to the left of the track). I see the word 'Volume' in the upper left, plus a value that changes with the slider, but the wave display doesn't change as I adjust that control before or during a recording.
In other words, when recording, the recording volume appears to be the same if the slider is at max, min or in-between.
Obviously I can increase the output from my mixer, but I suspect there's a place in the interface that I'm missing.
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S1 2.6.2 (latest build as of this writing).
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The recording volume is going to be determined by the input gain on your interface.
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donaldbaarns wroteIn other words, when recording, the recording volume appears to be the same if the slider is at max, min or in-between.

Like Matt said above, the pre-converter gain is controlled by your pre-amp or gain stage before and/or on the audio hardware interface and the channel fader is staged after the recorded signal.
But you can adjust the post-converter / pre-recorded gain level inside of Studio One during recording on the input channel, like if for example you like the level you're hitting the pre-amp and hardware ADC but want to trim or gain the recorded level to disk for some reason. That's all done in the digital domain, after the converter, but before the hard disk.
Look to the left of the console panel for a button labeled 'Inputs' to see the input channels and their faders and inserts panels and all that.
Hope that helps.
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LMike wroteBut you can adjust the post-converter / pre-recorded gain level inside of Studio One during recording on the input channel, like if for example you like the level you're hitting the pre-amp and hardware ADC but want to trim or gain the recorded level to disk for some reason. That's all done in the digital domain, after the converter, but before the hard disk.
Look to the left of the console panel for a button labeled 'Inputs' to see the input channels and their faders and inserts panels and all that.
Hope that helps.

I appreciate the responses.
I have the 'Inputs' showing in my mixer panel, but I can't find any sliders or other interfaces allowing me to trim or gain any signal from my mixer. All those controls are post recording from what I can tell. (I hope I'm missing something.)
Just to be sure I get it: All input gain controls are outboard when using Windows Audio.
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Windows audio does not give you input gain options IIRC. The above mentioned tips are taking into consideration an external soundcard.
What is it you are trying to do?
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donaldbaarns wroteI have the 'Inputs' showing in my mixer panel, but I can't find any sliders or other interfaces allowing me to trim or gain any signal from my mixer. All those controls are post recording from what I can tell. (I hope I'm missing something.)

Forgive my incorrect use of the word 'faders' in the previous post.
What I intended to say was to double click on the input channel which will open up the insert panel (if it's in short mixer mode, if not the panel will already be visible). If you want to adjust the gain in-between the ADC and the hard disk recorder, you'd need to use a Mixtool plugin or something to adjust gain.
Sorry for the confusing terminology. Those inserts are 'pre hard disk recording'.
P.S. Where I got subconsciously confused there is re: my long history with Cubase, which works much the same way but it's input channels have faders on them.
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matthewgorman wroteWindows audio does not give you input gain options IIRC. The above mentioned tips are taking into consideration an external soundcard.
What is it you are trying to do?

I'm recording voice for audiobooks, and the gain was too low but in an ideal world, I didn't want to change the mixer going into the Windows Audio. I was hoping there was a minor gain stage before it is recorded, so I could make a minor tweak.
I have multiple narrators here and one of the females is far quieter on the mic than one of the guys. I can certainly adjust the mixer, but preferred to set the mixer a single setting and trim or gain a little before the recording stage, but I see that's not a realistic strategy.
Because the sessions are over many days (reading 5-20 hours of audio) I work to be consistent from day-to-day on the input levels. It's easier to be precise in S1 compared to knobs on the existing mixer.
I do suspect that as soon as I switch to a PreSonus mic interface, then S1 will be able to control the pre-amps/levels on the hardware. That's one of my next upgrades, but I'm new to S1 and just working with the cheap hardware that was used previously (and overall works fine for my usage case.)
Spoken voice recordings are far simpler than what 95% are doing with S1.
I appreciate all your insights. THANKS!
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As long as the signal to noise ratio is good, you can increase the gain in S1 with no adverse effects. Mixtool is a way to do it, but most of the native s1 plugs have a gain knob that will do the same thing. Just get the input meter hitting a descent level and you'll be fine.
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LMike wrote
donaldbaarns wroteI have the 'Inputs' showing in my mixer panel, but I can't find any sliders or other interfaces allowing me to trim or gain any signal from my mixer. All those controls are post recording from what I can tell. (I hope I'm missing something.)

Forgive my incorrect use of the word 'faders' in the previous post.
What I intended to say was to double click on the input channel which will open up the insert panel (if it's in short mixer mode, if not the panel will already be visible). If you want to adjust the gain in-between the ADC and the hard disk recorder, you'd need to use a Mixtool plugin or something to adjust gain.
Sorry for the confusing terminology. Those inserts are 'pre hard disk recording'.
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P.S. Where I got subconsciously confused there is re: my long history with Cubase, which works much the same way but it's input channels have faders on them.

WOW, that's exactly what I was looking for. I had clicked on those controls, but I didn't do it in the right spot, and they don't have the 'arrow' button that is on the faders...
Brilliant. And I didn't even try your 'double-click' first, I just found the 'MixTool' and dragged it onto the fader and it opened the Inserts section.
That is exactly what I was looking for... and the default tool is perfect because ultimately I can set up a template for each narrator, and adjust them (telling them to keep their hands off the hardware mixer!)
For the others who are ignorant like me: The attachment shows what it looks like after you add the 'MixDown' insert.
THANKS. I'm still new and really liking this software, but the user community is extremely helpful.
That makes a world of difference! Thanks again!
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matthewgorman wroteAs long as the signal to noise ratio is good, you can increase the gain in S1 with no adverse effects. Mixtool is a way to do it, but most of the native s1 plugs have a gain knob that will do the same thing. Just get the input meter hitting a descent level and you'll be fine.

I appreciate your insights. I have been able to deal with the low levels after the recording, and I have enough S-to-N ratio, but I wanted the input recording to be closer as one narrator was just too quiet and making extra work for me...
I didn't even know about the MixDown insert, so another tool in the back pocket.
Thanks for your insights!
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Dear Studio One Users,
the next maintainance update is out there. Thanks for all your helpful input!
Have a nice summer time and maximum fun with Studio One 4.5.2!
Enjoy!
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Version 4.5.2 Release Notes (July 11, 2019):
New features and improvements:
● [Fat Channel] Support for increased Q value on parametric EQ for Series III mixers*
* This affects Q automation in songs created in previous versions. Make sure to render / bounce affected tracks before updating.
● [Project Page] Added “Normalize Track” function
● [Project Page] Added an inplace inspector for tracks
● [Project Page] Track commands are now assignable
● [Project Page] Streamlined digital release dialog
● [Macros] New menu items are now inserted at the end of the list
● “Edit Macro” and “Duplicate Macro” are now available for menu items
● Transform tool in instrument editor now keeps selection
● Added 'Time Lock' & 'Edit Lock' Parameters to Event Inspector
● Input selectors in groups are not linked anymore
● Added a group color bar in track controls
The following issues have been fixed:
● Pipeline not working after transforming audio
● Layout issues with Japanese strings
● Layout issues in video export dialog
● Unable to change the color of selected channels in certain cases
● Sample position shift with ARA plugins
● 'Normalize Audio' command should toggle
● Default Plug-in Manager window is too large
● Certain plug-in thumbnails not showing
● Crash on applying macro to split at marker
● DDP image created when cancelled with [Esc] key
● Cut-off strings in localized quantize panel
● [Ripple Edit] Dragging Audio Events from other tracks doesn’t ripple subsequent events
● [Ripple Edit] Duplicating with keyboard command doesn’t ripple subsequent events if there is space
● [Ripple Edit] Marker deletion is prevented
● Nested groups cause faders to jump when full group is re-enabled
● [Impact XT] Can't replace sample by drag and drop from browser
● Console Shaper won’t audition on mono bus
● Missing note-off for Note FX when switching track
● Melodyne level changes with 64-bit process precision
● Potential crash on video export
● Change instrument no longer affects all selected tracks
● Transform back to Instrument Track doesn't restore Note FX automation
● Hidden plug-ins still shown in certain areas
● Wrong first frame displayed when exporting video in loop range
● Potential crash extracting audio from certain AVI video files
● Crossfade shape at the end of events not following correctly when tracks are grouped
● “Trim Start/End To Cursor” won't work with (Edit) Groups
● [Windows 7] Erratic behavior when importing certain .m4a files
● [Windows 7] Export video fails for certain formats
● Dragging parts from Scratch Pad to Groove produces incorrect result
● Navigation with arrow keys stops on nested track folders
● [Windows] Holding mouse down on chord block moves chord events
● Track notes are removed when transforming track to rendered audio
● Zooming selected automation track should not affect parent track
● Embedded AAF files exported from Studio One get truncated in Pro Tools
● [External Instruments] Labels CC71 and CC74 are swapped
● [Audio Batch Converter] Metadata not copied during processing
● [Audio Batch Converter] Potential freeze with plug-ins having more than one input
● Reverse sidechain selection - Alt/Option+mouse click to select all / none is not working as expected
● GUI issues in Chord Picker
● [Macros] Renaming a copy is followed by an error message
● Deleting a Scratch Pad sometimes causes hanging / freezing
● Bend marker editing on stretched part not correctly redrawn
● Paste to locked track creates new track
● Visual group aids missing on grouped channel duplicate
● Potential crash on closing a song w/ imported data
● Copying automation between parameters won't work
● Waveform not updated when recording into layers on an external FAT device
● Resolution and timebase not stored in template
● Solo (S) key command not working with groups
● Editing clip gain and fades won't work in (edit) groups
● Note events in loop mode shouldn't be quantized when IQ is off
● Renamed Macro loses its shortcut
● Chord Preview preset path shouldn't show 'User Presets'
● Adding new Instrument Track makes hidden mixer bus channels visible
● Master bus pre/post metering incorrect
● [macOS] Double-clicking a .song file opens the Start Page instead
● MIDI velocity decreasing by 1 on import
● Windows audio stops sound if using 64-bit process precision
● Commands are interpreted in wrong focus area when application is in background
● Potential freeze when triggering macros via touch interface
● Simple command macros not working
● Potential crash on writing automation on multi-out channel
● Potential crash on “Import Song Data”
● [Macros] 'Show in Explorer / Finder' has no effect when 'Select in Pool' was executed before
● 'Clear Pattern' in detached Quantize Panel of editor clears Q-pattern in Arrangement
● Moving multiple Arrangement sections might delete time signatures
● Selection-based groups not changing the inputs for all selected tracks
● “Distribute Notes” ignores first note
● Wrong event focus when switching layers
● Swing notes not divided correctly when painted
● Level Meter stops updating when switching modes
● [Project Page] Crash on Right-/Ctrl+click in empty timeline
● Musical Editor selection issues
● Deleting Scratch Pad/s might delete adjacent tempo node/s
● Deleting entry from download list also deletes selected event in arrangement
● Exporting video between loop will lose orientation information
● File rename should contain the current file name
● Randomize Notes - note length entry requires trailing space
● Suspending a group is not undoable
● RSS feed takes too much time to load
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